The mental gymnastics are in full force for this odd atonal instrumental, as Martin and Sam are joined by Jenny Conley-Drizos of the Decemberists to discuss the orchestral creation of “the essence of train”, Scott Johnson’s intense 80s editing strategies, and to list some instruments Sam has owned but never bothered to practice. 

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Music extracts used for illustrative/review purposes include:
Gospel Train/Orchestra, The Black Rider, Tom Waits (1993)

John Somebody Part 1, John Somebody, Scott Johnson (1982)
Clip available at Scott Johnson's website scottjohnsoncomposer.com
Scott Johnson: Soliloquy (1991) from How It Happens (The Voice of I.F. Stone), Short Stories, The Kronos Quartet (1993)

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