Things get a little meta this week, as guest host Celine Teo-Blockey discusses with Sam & Martin the way that this song exemplifies the ways women are seen and perceived in art and culture, and in the world in general. We chat about storytelling, being trapped in roles, and the buddhist attitudes of Bill Murray.

Please add comment via emailtwitter or on facebook.

Music extracts used for illustrative/review purposes include:
I'm Still Here, Alice, Tom Waits (2002)

Playing Nancy, Groundhog Day The Musical, Rebecca Faulkenberry / Tim Minchin (2017)

Footage of Alice Liddell from her USA trip, via YouTube (1932)

Alice Documentary, unknown origin (I'm Still Here sung by Annette Paulman & Tom Waits, beginning to 1m54s) - via YouTube (1992)

Ten Thousand Years (Part 1), Imaginary Advice podcast 72, Ross Sutherland (2020)


Ten Thousand Years (Part 2), Imaginary Advice podcast 73, Ross Sutherland (2020)

Log into the Spotify web player to hear these tracks.